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]]> By: Lupe http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Lupe Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:31:49 +0000 http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/#comment-10 This is a daily occurrence in the war but being home I've seen that it's an afterthought to many, especially the anti-war protestors. That's fine, that's their opinion. The line is crossed though when people desecrate the lives of the fallen. I don't care what you think about the war but doesn't it make sense to afford the people who die the same respect as any other deceased person? All too common the response is "We don't care". Are people really that dissensitized now? We just don't care about people dying? I'm not sure who would be to blame for this if you could blame anyone. It seems ignorant and selfish to think that as long something doesn't affect one personally or it doesn't sit well with one, it doesn't matter. Some people are just too far gone to care but gradually, it seems, people feel like this more and more. Not just in regards to the military but like Grace mentioned civil service employees like police officers. Death is in the natural course of life but when people choose to gamble with it for the well being of others, it deserves a little respect. Respectable don't get enough respect. I Agree This is a daily occurrence in the war but being home I’ve seen that it’s an afterthought to many, especially the anti-war protestors. That’s fine, that’s their opinion. The line is crossed though when people desecrate the lives of the fallen. I don’t care what you think about the war but doesn’t it make sense to afford the people who die the same respect as any other deceased person? All too common the response is “We don’t care”. Are people really that dissensitized now? We just don’t care about people dying? I’m not sure who would be to blame for this if you could blame anyone. It seems ignorant and selfish to think that as long something doesn’t affect one personally or it doesn’t sit well with one, it doesn’t matter. Some people are just too far gone to care but gradually, it seems, people feel like this more and more. Not just in regards to the military but like Grace mentioned civil service employees like police officers.

Death is in the natural course of life but when people choose to gamble with it for the well being of others, it deserves a little respect. Respectable don’t get enough respect. I Agree

]]> By: alpersa http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-8 alpersa Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:37:04 +0000 http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/#comment-8 I am not going to lie it’s about 1:33 am and I am sitting at my kitchen table trying to finish these posts my neighbor sitting across from studying for his accounting exam. After reading your post I broke down into tears when he asked what was wrong I could not example I just got up and left my kitchen table. Twenty minutes later I am still trying to write this post and the words just won’t seem to come out. One of the happiest days of your teenage life is suppose to be your graduation from high school coming from a graduating class of only twenty eight my classmates and I were all well acquainted. Graduation was set for Friday night at 7 pm however; just two days prior to this three of my classmates were killed by a drunken driver. Graduation was not the same the administration tried to make it as up beat as possible but nobody wished to be there. Every year a senior slide show plays prior receiving your diploma the slide show had already been finished and there was no way of taking the three girls out when there picture showed our entire school immediately broke down. It was memorable that for that mere second everybody in the small town of Leland was quite we all wished to pay our respects. While that was nice but in just a few short seconds our lives went on. For the unfortunate family matters it was devastating they did not get to greave instead they showed up for all there friends graduation parties while great respect was shown to the families it just goes to show that people die everyday and for most its just another person whether they are 100 or 2. I am not going to lie it’s about 1:33 am and I am sitting at my kitchen table trying to finish these posts my neighbor sitting across from studying for his accounting exam. After reading your post I broke down into tears when he asked what was wrong I could not example I just got up and left my kitchen table. Twenty minutes later I am still trying to write this post and the words just won’t seem to come out. One of the happiest days of your teenage life is suppose to be your graduation from high school coming from a graduating class of only twenty eight my classmates and I were all well acquainted. Graduation was set for Friday night at 7 pm however; just two days prior to this three of my classmates were killed by a drunken driver. Graduation was not the same the administration tried to make it as up beat as possible but nobody wished to be there. Every year a senior slide show plays prior receiving your diploma the slide show had already been finished and there was no way of taking the three girls out when there picture showed our entire school immediately broke down.
It was memorable that for that mere second everybody in the small town of Leland was quite we all wished to pay our respects. While that was nice but in just a few short seconds our lives went on. For the unfortunate family matters it was devastating they did not get to greave instead they showed up for all there friends graduation parties while great respect was shown to the families it just goes to show that people die everyday and for most its just another person whether they are 100 or 2.

]]> By: rooyj http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-4 rooyj Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:13:11 +0000 http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/#comment-4 After reading your post, I got chills, I must admit. It’s not everyday where one actually sits and thinks about people who have died, and their families. Its always “someone else”, or “that one guy”. People unfortunately sometimes don’t stop to think about how close they actually are to losing someone close. My best friend just signed up for the National Guard, and only now am I starting to realize how close I am to losing him… I think this is part of the reason why Vera is so upset about Roland’s death. It was never real to her until she heard the news. His letters were filled with intermittent positive thoughts and veiled remarks about the brutalities of war that I don’t know if she ever completely understood the immediate danger he was in. As for the movies, I remember one movie by Michael Moore called “Rodger & Me”, where a black man dressed up in a Superman costume (obviously not in his right mind) was hobbling towards police with a shotgun. He took a couple of steps, and BAM, they shot him dead. The scene quickly shifts to a woman clubbing rabbits, skinning them, and selling their furs so she can get out of debt. There was uproar when the movie came out about the indecency and total horrific-ness of one of these scenes. But was it the obviously handicapped man who was confused? No, it was over the woman who was trying to survive by killing rabbits. No one mentioned the guy getting shot in the chest. Maybe because no one would remember him? Doesn’t he have family too? Someone must have loved him somewhere. After reading your post, I got chills, I must admit. It’s not everyday where one actually sits and thinks about people who have died, and their families. Its always “someone else”, or “that one guy”. People unfortunately sometimes don’t stop to think about how close they actually are to losing someone close. My best friend just signed up for the National Guard, and only now am I starting to realize how close I am to losing him…

I think this is part of the reason why Vera is so upset about Roland’s death. It was never real to her until she heard the news. His letters were filled with intermittent positive thoughts and veiled remarks about the brutalities of war that I don’t know if she ever completely understood the immediate danger he was in.

As for the movies, I remember one movie by Michael Moore called “Rodger & Me”, where a black man dressed up in a Superman costume (obviously not in his right mind) was hobbling towards police with a shotgun. He took a couple of steps, and BAM, they shot him dead. The scene quickly shifts to a woman clubbing rabbits, skinning them, and selling their furs so she can get out of debt.
There was uproar when the movie came out about the indecency and total horrific-ness of one of these scenes. But was it the obviously handicapped man who was confused? No, it was over the woman who was trying to survive by killing rabbits. No one mentioned the guy getting shot in the chest. Maybe because no one would remember him? Doesn’t he have family too? Someone must have loved him somewhere.

]]> By: tubbsd http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/comment-page-1/#comment-3 tubbsd Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:25:05 +0000 http://ullreyg.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/on-death-and-dying/#comment-3 I agree with your connection to the text in regards to the feeling that it appears that no one really cares about Roland’s death and the impact of it. The quote from the text did appeal to me as well. I was considered going in to the Marines and was about to go but didn’t. Now I am going into a career field where I will have to make a decision to take someone else’s life. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to take the life of another human being, and then have to deal with the psychological and emotional impacts of killing someone. People don’t understand how hard to have the responsibilities of taking a humans life. Yes, the families are just as brave as their soldier(s) because they have so much to worry about and hopefully not dealing with the death. I think that we have to look at our history and question whether or not war is inevitable because I don’t think it is and for the U.S. to be what we are today I don’t think we can avoid war. I just pray for the families and the soldiers and try my best to be thankful for there service so that I can live free. I agree with your connection to the text in regards to the feeling that it appears that no one really cares about Roland’s death and the impact of it. The quote from the text did appeal to me as well.

I was considered going in to the Marines and was about to go but didn’t. Now I am going into a career field where I will have to make a decision to take someone else’s life. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to take the life of another human being, and then have to deal with the psychological and emotional impacts of killing someone. People don’t understand how hard to have the responsibilities of taking a humans life.

Yes, the families are just as brave as their soldier(s) because they have so much to worry about and hopefully not dealing with the death. I think that we have to look at our history and question whether or not war is inevitable because I don’t think it is and for the U.S. to be what we are today I don’t think we can avoid war. I just pray for the families and the soldiers and try my best to be thankful for there service so that I can live free.

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